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"I am part of all that I have met"
Alfred Lord Tennyson

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rosemary said...

It sounds as if you are almost enjoying the teaching position...almost, not alot...a lot.

rosemary said...

I don't do politics or windows....both are way to dirty for me. The Woman in Red....tells the world you have a wife. Saw myself in several places....thank you, I consider it an honor.

celerman said...

I thought you said you were poem challenged Rosemary.

rosemary said...

me and you
meaning friends

rosemary said...

excess:

skin
hair
tears
space
spending

Drizel said...

sjoe, I hope I am commenting in the right place...enjoyed your poem witout a pic, brilliantly stringed together...:)

rosemary said...

I like the color better...not that black isn't lovely...the lighter/white is easier to read. I get easily confused you know, so I will take my time and look things over. I do like having everything all in one place, but then besides being confused I am lazy. Are your lists/memes titled? I can't flip back now I don't think. No matter the set up, it is your writing that intrigues me not the colors or anything else. If nothing else Rob, I am faithful. Do you need a colorful clock?

rosemary said...

Your list about you.....so limited....should add
reader
poet
painter
friend
political

CoralPoetry said...
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Anonymous said...

The deleted post above was an apology to Rob. The erasure in no way negates the apology, which still stands.

Regards,
C

rosemary said...

Hi Rob, have you not posted or am I lost in Celerman City?

rosemary said...

Where are you? I keep reading the same poems and lists.....I may be able to recite them soon...I hope you are OK.

rosemary said...

Just checking in.....

rosemary said...

Have read your latest post 3 times...it takes me awhile to grasp some of your writing...but grasp it I will. I'm so glad you are being creative in so many wonderful ways. I like the new look. I can't view the video....stupid dial up. Have missed you, Rob. fondly, rosemary

rosemary said...

Rob, your meme's are simple, straightforward, honest and in that honesty is truth. They are different....truth and honesty. I do not want to die, but know I have to. So, a question....where do my mind, memories, feelings, love, hate, everything that is rosemary go? I don't want all that I think and feel to have been a waste of time.

hm-uk said...

I think to be WIDELY respected you must be accessible to a variety of people. Accessibility may be another word for 'mainstream', perhaps. It won't matter how interesting or 'correct' you are in your line of thinking, if people cannot understand or identify with your thoughts, you will remain on the fray.

Thanks for linking with me, by the way! Your memes are fabulous.

Sister Mary Lisa said...

I somehow found The Red Letter (as well as the story of Lola)...

Wow. I mean, WOW. Very touching, both.

I can't wait to read more later.

sml

Pat said...

Hi I am here from Michele and am amazed at the reams of comments and wonder if I am in the right place. The phrase - a deeper life rather than a long one resonates with me. I have already passed my three score years and ten and have always valued the quality rather than the quantity Of life. Especially now; I don't want to waste a single day feeling miserable, grumpy or dissatisfied and although my horizons have narrowed diie to my husband's health I still delight in the simple beauty of the earth and its wild life, the comfort of friends and loved ones and life in general. When I can't appreciate these things I will be more than ready to shrug off this mortal coil:)

hm-uk said...

Feelings give rise to ideas and vice versa. Tests either prove or disprove these feelings/ideas and then they become fact or fiction.

celerman said...

"Feelings are more important than ideas"

In a world that respects logic and reason more than intuition, I want my Children to know that it is more important to trust your feelings.

hm-uk said...

Reality is a state of mind. Possibly. Probably. What if reality was a state of survival? We have to sense things in a particular way in order to survive? We have to perceive and experience things in a particular way to learn? It's an interesting though but there should be a definite reason for all humans, cultural differences aside, to experience the bulk of all stimuli in a similar manner. Hope you are well, Celerman.

hm

hm-uk said...

Only in their perception are ugliness and beauty different things...

Are objects really only neutral if we have no descriptors to attach to them, assigning them value? Perhaps this is the instance where one's feelings are the most important - that initial response indicating that we are attracted to or repulsed by an object/person/idea. Those who are physically blind must use different types of perception to gauge beauty, and perhaps it is their perception that should be trusted above all...

Sister Mary Lisa said...

Interesting comments from hm-uk...very thought-provoking.

I also love the new layout of your blog, Celerman.

Sister Mary Lisa said...

The poetry inspired by memories of your father is powerful.

hm-uk said...

Reality is a sensation...

Reality can also be senseless, don't you think?

celerman said...

Two different senses of senseless I think. Senseless meaning without sensation and senseless meaning pointless.

I could reduce this meme to "Reality is sensation."

But their is another Meme that you hint at I think - "Reality is pointless."

At the bottom of both these memes, and others, is the question of whether reality exists outside of our perception of it. It's the popular philisophical problem at the heart of whether a tree falling in a forest away from all civilisation actually makes a noise. It can also be linked to the quantum physics problem of Shrodinger's cat. We can never know whther reality exists outside of perception because we have to perceive it to know the answer.

Sister Mary Lisa said...

Did you draw the pic in your avatar?

hm-uk said...

But Celermaaaan, not to be too pedantic, right, I AM of the strong opinion (today, at least) that reality is not a sensation so much as our perception of the sensation. I implore you (strong words, I know) to consider the plight of those who are suffering from ill mental health. Their experience in sensation (physical or otherwise) may be the very same magnitude on the sensory gauge, however, their perception of the sensation may be VERY different, indeed. I suppose that was why I opted to use the homonym of 'senseless'.

I can imagine some sort of life within a sensory deprivation tank, now. If I had been raised in a sensory deprivation tank, would my mind have any way of comprehending any type of reality, or what would be my level of functioning, physical or otherwise?

hm-uk said...

Perhaps it's not one's job to save another, however, I think that evolution has guaranteed that we try to save one another as often as we can...

Wikipedia site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism

PS. Sorry for being so lazy and just inserting a link...

celerman said...

1. The idea of mental health as good or bad is culturally determined. Forms of "madness" in the West are revered in cultures that trust their Shamen.
2. My reality may differ from yours. Even our sense of time may alter our reality beyond simply perceiving time to "fly when we are having fun." Try this one - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6926500.stm

It's a difficult concept that, ironically, can never be solved because we can't experience "reality" through any senses other than our own. Is your blue tha same as my blue, or do you see blue and I see red? Or, as The Matrix put it, "How did the machines know what chicken tasted like?"

As for saving one another, surely evolution guarantees the survival of the fittest, and in a world of ever depleting resources the fittest may actually be those who look after themselves.

I hope I'm wrong on this point because, as a person who spends his entire life helping others and finds it practically impossible to say no, or walk away, if I'm right, I'm doomed.

Sister Mary Lisa said...

That's profound, Rob. I hope you're not doomed.

rosemary said...

I am reading your meme's as common sense and trying not to look too deeply. You are brilliant Rob, no doubting that.

hm-uk said...

When society says something is bad what is actually meant is that it's bad for society...something like that. Hmmm. Where do I begin? I think there must be a dozen definitions for the term 'bad', but let's just say that it means something that, in relation to the survival of a society and its cultural norms, is destructive to those norms. What happens when the cultural norms are, themselves, destructive? Won't the society as it's known (at that point where something was deemed to be 'bad') be restructured eventually, anyway?

celerman said...

Heroin is bad for us because the money raised by a legitimate heroin trade would empower Afghanistan (and other states) and this is not deemed to be in the best interests of the dominant western powers. Tobacco and alcohol are statistically just as bad for us, but they have received, and continue to receive, support from those same western powers because the money raised helps them to dominate. That's what I mean... I think

hm-uk said...

Personal gifts are personal colonialism. True, sometimes. I think when we do not know a person very well we give them what we would like them to have or what we, ourselves, would like to have or what we think will make us look good for giving them. However, when you know someone on the inside...hey, wait. Okay, there is no benevolence in giving a gift. Is there benevolence in buying someone a pint?

celerman said...

No. We always want something in return. Gifts always take.

Sister Mary Lisa said...

Interesting meme: The promise of a loving kiss can move you to commit any crime

I like it. It's true.

Sister Mary Lisa said...

Hey Celerman,

I got lucky to meet HM-UK in Paris this week. Great times!

Sister Mary Lisa said...

Man, would I ever love to go on one of those creative vacations. I'd take the life drawing course, I think.

*Sigh*

rosemary said...

2007 since I last left a comment? Oh my....Rob, yor talent is limitless

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